It was just one that people said, fuckin ell thats really cool and I think it must have been the really, really early days with Phil Collen.
![]() By the time I was thirteen I was way too young to be doing it but I was smoking spliff and listening to Led Zeppelin, Alice Cooper, T.Rex and Bowie. My first obsession was I suppose T.Rex and I went to see them at the Empire Pool in Wembley (London) which was about four or five stops away from Swiss Cottage where I lived. So Steve (Laffy) was an assistant for Duffy but very soon after those gigs he had left that post and went onto Twickenham Film Studios to work on movies, (the Laffys and the Duffys got very close back then). After Steve left was when Duffy started to do all the Bowie Aladdin Sane stuff. Bowie and Duffy did a lot of projects together and I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for all that stuff. I digress a little bit but basically I was interested in all of that, the make-up, the androgyny and by the age of about fourteen or fifteen I realised I was bisexual and I got into the kinds of things on glam side of it and I realised some straight guys were kind of cute and all that kind of stuff but I still had girlfriends. I didnt get it on with a guy until later in my teens like seventeen or eighteen and by that time I was really playing with the whole sexuality thing and Phillip Lewis, who is straight was really embracing all that fluidity too. I would wear like little old ladies blouses that I would buy from junk shops and earrings and he just thought that was really cool. He actually came up with the name GIRL but the androgyny and the sexuality side of things was definitely me and I really pushed the boundaries a lot and encouraged him to do things like wear THAT fur coat (on the Do You Love Me cover) but I said take your top off so it looks like you have got a pair of tits and all that stuff. We also hung about with some really interesting people in the very early days of Girl. Pre Girl and we had a band called Hot Knives, we met this guy would trade Opium for hashish and we used to smoke opium through the burning of hot knives, hence the name Hot Knives. Now Phil Collen has the tits Philip Lewis was once accused of having. My brother (Simon) when he was sixteen, so I would be about fourteen or fifteen aspired to be a bass player and he had, (hell kill me for telling you this) a plank of wood with all the frets and four strings and before he could afford a real bass he taught himself to play. I was really impressed with his tenacity with it all and he really wanted to be a bass player. Now John (Benson) was a great friend of ours who died a couple of years ago. John was an amazing person and he was a real clubber and he I think he used to get blow for the rich and famous people coming into town and he was very well connected. We had a flat in West Hampstead and there was me and my brother living there and two other guys who turned out to be the first guys in the Girl road crew (Richard and Rob, and my sisters one time beau Mick). So one day John Benson turned up and there was this mate of his nodding away, smoking weed and taking whatever else was being chopped out on the table. Then all of a sudden this guy piped up with a little tune and I thought hang on thats Marvin Gaye There he was JB, just hanging out with his mates, just sitting in our flat with Marvin Gaye and thats the kind of guy he was. He ended up doing well as he discovered these girls and put them together with someone else from the club scene and they basically became All Saints and they all became millionaires and he launched himself out of all that. ![]() It really came down to Phillip had a phone number and I had a phone number and because I used to write all the paperwork, as in what we needed for rehearsal room, the lyrics and all that kind of stuff and it was just his number and my number and it just stuck and that literally is where it came from, his number and my number and there is no reference to the phrase My Number at all in the song.
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